Wavant Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 These guys are a bit simple-minded aren't they? All saying "you don't need to do that" when he's talking about all these big things he wants to do. Defo simple-minded. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 90210 Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 its tru tho you dont need corporations etc etc thats just slavery modern day... you can do it by yourself with hard work and determination... as chala boy said... malcom x and luther king didnt hes just moaning and ranting coz he lost 13million and/or becoz nike and all them others didnt give him correct advances or summin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incumbent Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 i don't think ppl fully getting it, imo ye is saying without the green light from the corporations a black person's fashion label will never reach the generational & historical levels of the armani's, gucci's, prada, ysl etc those in control which isn't a lot will not allow it, end of now & again they'll break us off a little something here & there but thats about it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 90210 Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 yeah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearless-Guy Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 guy should learn to write down his thoughts If only his means of living allowed him such artistic license..! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incumbent Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 i just believe ye has truly realised with all his fame, fortune, achievements certain things will always remain the same frustration & vex levels are very high Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshie Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 guy should learn to write down his thoughts If only his means of living allowed him such artistic license..! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Infamous Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 People were talking as if cthegawd sonned Ye but i would say its the other way around His sway interview killed me tho you aint got the answers sway!!! Looool I started in my mama now im here I am micheal angelo i am google loooooool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh To Death Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 that "did i not" speech he gave was emotional let out a little slow clap applause when he finished Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkman Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 People were talking as if cthegawd sonned Ye but i would say its the other way around His sway interview killed me tho you aint got the answers sway!!! Looool I started in my mama now im here I am micheal angelo i am google loooooool How was it the other way round? He couldn't give a straight answer to the questions he was asked The guy is a rambling idiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Infamous Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 People were talking as if cthegawd sonned Ye but i would say its the other way around His sway interview killed me tho you aint got the answers sway!!! Looool I started in my mama now im here I am micheal angelo i am google loooooool How was it the other way round? He couldn't give a straight answer to the questions he was askedThe guy is a rambling idiot Nah man i watched it this morning char was tried to be smart but he was VERY one track minded When he was talking about companies and executives all he could say was do ur own thing dont depend on a cooperation etc etc. Cthegawd looked mad stupid. when C said he rants too much and complains about money kanye said i dont rant its more like a visionary stream of consciousness c sat there twitching Re-watch it man lol / Kanyes interviews are great. He drops gems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearless-Guy Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 The message is greater than the sum of words he's fumbling to get out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Di Gradi Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 my issue with kanye is that hes too self absorbed ...guy only wants to help one person and thats himself. he was salty big sean was above him in that list as well...thats his artist like? hes comparing himself to all these big people but he just needs to slow down...these people became big by people supporting the brand regardless ....people aint gonna wanna support ye if hes acting like some idiot talking about himself all the time...everything he wants to do is all about self gains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Caine Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 cthagod came at him on a good level, he basically said" we dont wnna hear about ur issues outside of music, " and he has a point, he needs to be careful,soon "fans" are gonna go to his concert jus to hear him rant,instead of jammin to his music Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Infamous Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Yeah but i can see why he is pissed when people are ripping him off like the yeezys,lv and all that fashion jazz. He is behaving disgruntled. People forget this guy has always been a gassed guy. Talib was saying on vlad kanye said he was gona be best dressed rapper/fashion icon when he was making beats for jay And talib was like ok mate. He has always put himself as a innovator so im suprised when people are sayin hes self absorbed hes been like that from the start. What happened to his voice tho must have picked that up recently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Caine Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 true he's still the same, i think hes doing the right thing by speaking on it constantly,but its jus the way hes puttin it across, u cant be saying ur the next "steve jobs" etc, i mean even if he does release a bunch of clothing who's to say the people will like it and take to it the way most people took to apple products. he needs to be patient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Infamous Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 He said in the interview my problem is i dont know how to talk to people. I think that explains what u said in a way I swear this nigga was suggesting leather trousers to a big clothing line and they told him nah. Then 1 year later everyone started makin them. Thas probably why hes gassing his "vision" on steve jobs level or whatever I rate how he described his albums and the "ages" he felt he was when he dropped them. Lets be honest yeezus being what it is was(controversial) alot of that sound will be mimicked by fresh producers. Cruel summer & mbdtf set the sound for a lot of beats that came out at around the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Caine Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 then thats probably one of the reasons why the " fashion world" wont let him in,a level of respect is needed, i mean look at the way he spoke to sway,disrespecting a friend live on air,so imagine how he speaks to people who he is not close to thats denying him a chance to "change the world" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Infamous Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Loool yeah man he needs go learn that shit. Like jay said know how to move in a room full of vultures i think it was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Horatio Caine Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 yh jays ah beast, if its not on his terms he wont fuck wid u lol its gonna be interesting tho, jay-z with his sporting agency,diddy with his network ,50 with his boxing promotion and now kanye with his fashion a lot of negativity around hip hop but dese bruddas know how to make million dollar deals,crazy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dub Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Yeah tbh he ain't got shit on Jobs. He might be at the top of his game but he ain't revolutionising shit. He's just being loud and ambitious. Like I'd be happy for him to do well, 'cause he's right about there being limits for black people, its easy to see black people don't have role models in a bunch of industries. But he thinks that because he's at the top of his game he can jump years ahead of people who've been in their industries for years, and he thinks that its just his name that should carry him - everyone has ideas, the only thing that makes him special is that he's a popular musician. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHN DOE Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 comment taken from another site i agree with everything said below n.b the merril lynch story that the poster was referring to is this http://www.msnbc.com/hardball/black-brokers-settle-racist-claim basically 4 black brokers took ML to court accusing them of providfing better opprotunities and compensation for white employees should stay in his lane as a rapper and make music, for a music industry that is controlled by Billionaire white men. Now, we have a story about Merrill Lynch, a financial institution, within yet another billion dollar industry controlled & dominated by white billionaires. With that power, these men in the article voice exactly how they exercised that power to marginalize, isolate & diminish these black people financially, as they do in most their industries. We're being shut out of these industries or held back to keep from prospering to the full capability these industries can generate for our black community, yet these industries are making millions & BILLIONS off of the black community. These brothers could easily be the role models necessary to inspire young blk boys to be more than dope boys, athletes or rappers. However, if they're stopped from succeeding, they have no real success to show or highlight to inspire the next generation. Which in essence, keeps blacks from ever accumulating GENERATIONAL WEALTH <----- The main point Kanye wants to convey to his fellow black people, hence him bringing up money & being a billionaire is the key to generational wealth. Of course u don't need money to make u happy or be free, but it is needed to create, start & maintain a business. But not just any business, A CONGLOMERATE. Think of money as gas, and a business a vehicle. In order for that vehicle (aka BUSINESS) to move & progress towards its destination, it needs gas (aka MONEY). However, some vehicles are gas guzzlers and needs a particular brand of gas & more gas to reach a certain destination. Millions of dollars is regular, Billions is premium & the only type of gas a billion dollar vehicle aka business can utilize to reach its final destination. Billionaires have generational wealth, millionaires don't. Millionaires don't run, own or control billion dollar industries, they're the highly paid employees of their bosses (i.e. BILLIONAIRES). Example of that is sports teams; most if not all of NFL, NBA & MLB sport teams owners with large majority ownerships are white billionaires. The players are the employees getting paid millions, to make them more BILLIONS!!! And we all know how soon these athletes go broke once they retire, how soon do any of these billionaire owners go broke??? Generational Wealth don't break!!! Kanye message isn't he wants to be in the inner circle of these white billionaires to become their friends or be accepted by them. He wants himself other blacks to be amongst them so we have BLACK representation on the highest level. So, when these billionaire white dudes try to move in on blk own companies that obtain such an amount of success, they're on billionaire status or will be in the future, we have a BLACK representative who can interfere with more white wealthy men taking control over our businesses or wiping them out. We can start doing business with those black representatives instead, and generate AND KEEP our own wealth that can allow each of our following generations to prosper as they should. One last example, in 2010 Birdman (Multi-millionaire) talked about how he owned an oil rig (billion dollar industry), and was making money of it. Not long after he made such a claim, Bloomberg investigated his claims and those in control of that industry discredited him, claiming they never heard of Broland Gas & Oil Company, they were just getting started & just hearing that alone, the white billionaires put a stop to it & that's the last u heard about it from them. Kanye isn't crazy, he's just emotional & frustrated to get his message out but I understood him completely. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sole Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Kanye is just pissed cos he knows Hiphop is actually holding him back now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dub Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 How can hiphop be holding him back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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