Why does it enter your mind? when I wanted to learn about Steve Jobs, Kevin liles and Spike Lee I wanted to know about their brilliance their spouse is not even a factor. Where is that line where you want acknowledge the brilliance of David Adjaye but can not until you find out the race of his partner?
Persoanlly you cant blame people for things like this
Culture etc... Has to be taught by parents and in particular fathers
Fathers bit is bullshit
fathers dont carry the culture in every society an its certainly not the case on caribbean communities. And no thats not a bad thing. Its just different
And are you sayin any black man who doesn't have a black partner is cos they didn't have a dad?
people talk about preserving bloodline
leta be honest for caribbeans...what bloodline?
I agree with everything vibes has said and especially about black being the only stipulation for a partner
If i was to marry a west african the cultural differences are just as stark as marrying an English white man
Brings us back to black being nothing more than a descriptive term, an adjective
Persoanlly you cant blame people for things like this
Culture etc... Has to be taught by parents and in particular fathers
Fathers bit is bullshit
fathers dont carry the culture in every society an its certainly not the case on caribbean communities. And no thats not a bad thing. Its just different
And are you sayin any black man who doesn't have a black partner is cos they didn't have a dad?
people talk about preserving bloodline
leta be honest for caribbeans...what bloodline?
I agree with everything vibes has said and especially about black being the only stipulation for a partner
If i was to marry a west african the cultural differences are just as stark as marrying an English white man
Brings us back to black being nothing more than a descriptive term, an adjective
That dismissive part about fathers baffles me, definitely the source of certain issues.
Lol @ what bloodline. If that's a licence for carib brehs to be doing what their doing then it's no wonder, that 50% of black males marrying white women that dinky brought up certainly doesn't apply to Africans.
I wasnt being dismissive its just that its not true. Id never be an advocate for single parent families but equally they dont produce faulty people.
anyway its a moot point to make in this argument imo
Its not a licence it just is what it is.
if the pro marrying black lobby in here believe their own arguments then what i said is valid. You marry a Jamaican woman supermalt...how are you preserving your bloodline anymore than marrying a white woman?
black isn't a bloodline
Surely you understand the diversity of caribbean people?
My personal preference is to be with someone who is of Jamaican heritage but i don't knock others for the choices they make as long as the choices aren't based on racism (to your own or otherwise ). Its the racist views that are a detrimental to progress for all
Persoanlly you cant blame people for things like this
Culture etc... Has to be taught by parents and in particular fathers
Fathers bit is bullshit
fathers dont carry the culture in every society an its certainly not the case on caribbean communities. And no thats not a bad thing. Its just different
And are you sayin any black man who doesn't have a black partner is cos they didn't have a dad?
people talk about preserving bloodline
leta be honest for caribbeans...what bloodline?
I agree with everything vibes has said and especially about black being the only stipulation for a partner
If i was to marry a west african the cultural differences are just as stark as marrying an English white man
Brings us back to black being nothing more than a descriptive term, an adjective
That dismissive part about fathers baffles me, definitely the source of certain issues.
Lol @ what bloodline. If that's a licence for carib brehs to be doing what their doing then it's no wonder, that 50% of black males marrying white women that dinky brought up certainly doesn't apply to Africans.
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As a Jamaican, I can see why race mixing is a lot more prevalent. When you consider the countries history & the original inhabitants.
apart from ag (northerner though so you know) swear its only 'bbeans that are arguing against the prospect of marrying your own? these man are determined to extinguish their melanin about "well look like Brazilians soon."
I wasnt being dismissive its just that its not true. Id never be an advocate for single parent families but equally they dont produce faulty people.
anyway its a moot point to make in this argument imo
Its not a licence it just is what it is.
if the pro marrying black lobby in here believe their own arguments then what i said is valid. You marry a Jamaican woman supermalt...how are you preserving your bloodline anymore than marrying a white woman?
black isn't a bloodline
Surely you understand the diversity of caribbean people?
My personal preference is to be with someone who is of Jamaican heritage but i don't knock others for the choices they make as long as the choices aren't based on racism (to your own or otherwise ). Its the racist views that are a detrimental to progress for all
Single parent homes are more likely to though, a woman can't teach a man to be a man. To me that transcends culture, it's not just different.
On the bloodline aspect if Meph is suggesting the laissez faire attitude is to do with the history of Jamaica then fair enough. I won't pretend to understand it.
To me the marry within issue is a personal preference and an economic one. Humans are tribal by nature, sanjeev can go to a number of cousins and fam for seed money on a business or deposit for a house, such a circle bonded by cultural norms.
I don't dismiss black men who have achieved a lot but marry white, because more interested in how they did it but with that I'm also thinking beyond myself and who I'm leaving all this success for...
Of course a woman can't teach a man to be a man but she can still pass on culture. And in two parent families there are cultures where still it is the women who lead in passing culture on
I understand the arguments about economics and I strongly believe that solid family structure is the foundation of a productive cohesive society
agree that people are tribal also
you will see that in mixed cultural relationships one culture dominates an that's what the children follow. So intrinsically there doesn't have to be anything wrong with marrying out
It's just if you're interested in cultural preservation you have to make sure your culture is the dominant one in your family.
Jamaicas motto is out of many one people. Its not a laissez faire attitude we have its an inclusive one
I wasnt being dismissive its just that its not true. Id never be an advocate for single parent families but equally they dont produce faulty people.
anyway its a moot point to make in this argument imo
Its not a licence it just is what it is.
if the pro marrying black lobby in here believe their own arguments then what i said is valid. You marry a Jamaican woman supermalt...how are you preserving your bloodline anymore than marrying a white woman?
black isn't a bloodline
Surely you understand the diversity of caribbean people?
My personal preference is to be with someone who is of Jamaican heritage but i don't knock others for the choices they make as long as the choices aren't based on racism (to your own or otherwise ). Its the racist views that are a detrimental to progress for all
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On the bloodline aspect if Meph is suggesting the laissez faire attitude is to do with the history of Jamaica then fair enough. I won't pretend to understand it.
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Understanding & empathy is needed imo. The militant way didn't work with me.
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As a fallen soldier I try to seek the root causes, so that I can educate the young ones in my family.
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Persoanlly you cant blame people for things like this
Culture etc... Has to be taught by parents and in particular fathers
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Why does it enter your mind? when I wanted to learn about Steve Jobs, Kevin liles and Spike Lee I wanted to know about their brilliance their spouse is not even a factor. Where is that line where you want acknowledge the brilliance of David Adjaye but can not until you find out the race of his partner?
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Like fuck I know.
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Although I'm pretty sure Lennox married a WOBO.
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If these was females you would be calling them WOBO.
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fathers dont carry the culture in every society an its certainly not the case on caribbean communities. And no thats not a bad thing. Its just different
And are you sayin any black man who doesn't have a black partner is cos they didn't have a dad?
people talk about preserving bloodline
leta be honest for caribbeans...what bloodline?
I agree with everything vibes has said and especially about black being the only stipulation for a partner
If i was to marry a west african the cultural differences are just as stark as marrying an English white man
Brings us back to black being nothing more than a descriptive term, an adjective
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That dismissive part about fathers baffles me, definitely the source of certain issues.
Lol @ what bloodline. If that's a licence for carib brehs to be doing what their doing then it's no wonder, that 50% of black males marrying white women that dinky brought up certainly doesn't apply to Africans.
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I wasnt being dismissive its just that its not true. Id never be an advocate for single parent families but equally they dont produce faulty people.
anyway its a moot point to make in this argument imo
Its not a licence it just is what it is.
if the pro marrying black lobby in here believe their own arguments then what i said is valid. You marry a Jamaican woman supermalt...how are you preserving your bloodline anymore than marrying a white woman?
black isn't a bloodline
Surely you understand the diversity of caribbean people?
My personal preference is to be with someone who is of Jamaican heritage but i don't knock others for the choices they make as long as the choices aren't based on racism (to your own or otherwise ). Its the racist views that are a detrimental to progress for all
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As a Jamaican, I can see why race mixing is a lot more prevalent. When you consider the countries history & the original inhabitants.
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bait grafter is with a MOWO
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apart from ag (northerner though so you know) swear its only 'bbeans that are arguing against the prospect of marrying your own? these man are determined to extinguish their melanin about "well look like Brazilians soon."
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Man of white origin?
Did u not aee where i said my preference is for a man of jamaican heritage. I mean there are white jamaicans but no I'm not.
I've been in relationships with different cultures and i know whats good for me
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Single parent homes are more likely to though, a woman can't teach a man to be a man. To me that transcends culture, it's not just different.
On the bloodline aspect if Meph is suggesting the laissez faire attitude is to do with the history of Jamaica then fair enough. I won't pretend to understand it.
To me the marry within issue is a personal preference and an economic one. Humans are tribal by nature, sanjeev can go to a number of cousins and fam for seed money on a business or deposit for a house, such a circle bonded by cultural norms.
I don't dismiss black men who have achieved a lot but marry white, because more interested in how they did it but with that I'm also thinking beyond myself and who I'm leaving all this success for...
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Of course a woman can't teach a man to be a man but she can still pass on culture. And in two parent families there are cultures where still it is the women who lead in passing culture on
I understand the arguments about economics and I strongly believe that solid family structure is the foundation of a productive cohesive society
agree that people are tribal also
you will see that in mixed cultural relationships one culture dominates an that's what the children follow. So intrinsically there doesn't have to be anything wrong with marrying out
It's just if you're interested in cultural preservation you have to make sure your culture is the dominant one in your family.
Jamaicas motto is out of many one people. Its not a laissez faire attitude we have its an inclusive one
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http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/06/mixed-marriage-interracial-partnerships-multiculturalism-society-class
Few stats yeah looks like it is 20% african males compared to 40% west indian males and 60% other black males (is other black like black british? )
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Understanding & empathy is needed imo. The militant way didn't work with me.
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As a fallen soldier I try to seek the root causes, so that I can educate the young ones in my family.
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