Turkish Airport under attack ?

[LS]

The video is actually mad, glad that guy was left on the floor with no one next to him.

The other video where the bomb went off in a more packed area was

Apparently there was a few of them and some of them were getting shot at before they even got into the building. That's why some of the bombs went off early.  The security at this airport is meant to be mad as well.

[Afroman]

I doubt the guy who shot the terrorist made it away. The radius of the bomb was quite wide 

[Taurus]

The security are mad tight at that airport so I am surprised how they got in. Definitely an inside job/Turkish gov

[james00]

sigh... but another great advert for atheism and an islamic reform

 

[Seydou]

Islam and reform.

 

Lol, sorry mate

[james00]

5 minutes ago, Seydou said:

Islam and reform.

 

Lol, sorry mate

Why not?

[Seydou]

What does it need to reform?

[james00]

8 minutes ago, Seydou said:

What does it need to reform?

 

Muslim Reform Movement 

• Peace: We reject interpretations of Islam that call for any violence, social injustice and politicized Islam. We invite our fellow Muslims and neighbors to join us.
• Human Rights: We reject bigotry, oppression and violence against all people based on any prejudice, including ethnicity, gender, language, belief, religion, sexual orientation and gender expression.
• Secular Governance: We are for secular governance, democracy and liberty. Every individual has the right to publicly express criticism of Islam. Ideas do not have rights. Human beings have rights.
• We stand for peace, human rights and secular governance. Please stand with us!

 

Seems rational.

[Seydou]

But correctly followed Islam does all of that.

Are we talking about culture or the religion?

[james00]

3 minutes ago, Seydou said:

But correctly followed Islam does all of that.

Are we talking about culture or the religion?

lol, no.

Most Muslim scholars, countries and Islamic institutions are pro politics, pro sharia, sexist, immoral human rights and an intolerance for criticism.

 

Islam needs to be represented by  

   

 

 

 

and not some sandy ass

[Badman]

Case for an argument but I do agree its more a question of culture rather than religion.....IMO

 

 

[time_bomb]

1 hour ago, james00 said:

 

Muslim Reform Movement 

• Peace: We reject interpretations of Islam that call for any violence, social injustice and politicized Islam. We invite our fellow Muslims and neighbors to join us.
• Human Rights: We reject bigotry, oppression and violence against all people based on any prejudice, including ethnicity, gender, language, belief, religion, sexual orientation and gender expression.
• Secular Governance: We are for secular governance, democracy and liberty. Every individual has the right to publicly express criticism of Islam. Ideas do not have rights. Human beings have rights.
• We stand for peace, human rights and secular governance. Please stand with us!

 

Seems rational.

Im a practising muslim and i live like this, what reform is needed?

I think its more peoples culture that needs reforming.

Look at hindus of india and christians of africa for similar backwards behaviour, its 3rd world mentality.

White people up norths behaviour is marginally better, just at the other end of the spectrum.

[TheKingOfRome]

 

[Supermalt]

47 minutes ago, Badman said:

Case for an argument but I do agree its more a question of culture rather than religion.....IMO

 

 

This 

[Zizouz]

12 minutes ago, TheKingOfRome said:

 

Listened to that guy as a guest on jre

He's a conservative Christian and his whole edgy wacky persona crumbled once it came to light

[Thun]

28 minutes ago, time_bomb said:

Im a practising muslim and i live like this, what reform is needed?

I think its more peoples culture that needs reforming.

Look at hindus of india and christians of africa for similar backwards behaviour, its 3rd world mentality.

White people up norths behaviour is marginally better, just at the other end of the spectrum.

This is why there will never be reform as in total denial

Bringing up white people up north just shows you animosity towards them and straight away you have broken the reforms, most of your posts on this forum show that

[JOHN DOE]

get a job mate 

[Zizouz]

Ffs

[Thun]

5 minutes ago, JOHN DOE said:

get a job mate 

Have I got to you too, that did not take long 

Is that what you do is insult people when you lose a debate

[james00]

But pillow talk is full of haram

[Vtec]

58 minutes ago, Afgoon said:

Islam (or the saudi doctrine as i call it ) is a special case

No other religious texts purports to be the word of god untouched

Therefore there can be no reform of islam or modernizing if 'the word of god'

It is precisely for that reason it is so utterly dangerous and corrosive and must be treated as a special case. This is not anti muslim or racist but factual. A muslim cannot put anything above islam not even his children. That is where the root of the cultural problems such as fgm honour killings backwardness eminates from - the culture of islam as layed forth quite explicitly in the quran.

The god of the quran asks for violent jihand against the kuffar. 

How can a muslim resist the word of god?

Therein lies the 'muslimbo' the modernizer must inhabit, wanting and being jealous of an anglicised christianity and wanting an islamic equivalent but deep down knowing in his heart that the word of his islamic god is unchangeable.

 

Sad times . Its them or us in the long term and i think as the.muslim populatikn grows there will be a civil unrest which will dwarf the bradford riots

 

 

Saudi Arabia as a kingdom only came into existence 1932 thanks to the british WW1 and via deals with Rockefeller's Oil company "Standard oil"  after signed drilling agreements in 1933 (banked by western jewry bankers of course). With the Saud family (wahhabi sunni muslim sect) and being aware of the warring caliphates in the region.

Prior to that saudi family where a strongman nomad warring tribe/ backed by the wahhbi movement pushing for control after the fallen Ottoman empire and Medina and Mecca and oust the orignal practice of Islam, (which is very similar in practice to Christanity) after WW1, Which the west needed to control the region, USA/rockefeller saw their chance sign exclusive oil prospect contracts that deal to get this violent family in power, and give special concessions for USA, who in turn made the family super rich and create a Saudi Royal state after themselves.

Thus with them riches they control of the Islamic Holy Lands and interpretation of how Islam should practised and the word etc globally. (key play is keep islamic followers Divided and blinded) in the rest of the middle eastern states as they still look towards Mecca, but may not share the same Sunni/Wahhabi (ultra conservate, medieval obersvation of faith and state of mind) and believe the Shiite/Shia Doctrine instead..

But all been sponsored by the west to maintain divisons and control indirectly as wealth and greed always the weakness of man, even the acclaimed super religous Saudi's

Rise of ISIS which is clearly a wahhabi style jihad etc.. shouldn't really be too hard to fathom if you follow global events and West's interests in the land for its survival and control.

Modernisation will only happen when Saudi/USA/uk falls, but noticebombs never fall in that land despite all the unrest around the rest of the middle east. US presidents still visit the land and pretty pally with the leaders til this day. But still sell you headlines on the news about needing to fight Terrorism.. please...

Unless some revolution of woke muslims, happens and recongnise the beast within, and critical self assesment no change will happen and will continue to be exploited and forever stalemate.

[Thun]

1 hour ago, Vtec said:

Saudi Arabia as a kingdom only came into existence 1932 thanks to the british WW1 and via deals with Rockefeller's Oil company "Standard oil"  after signed drilling agreements in 1933 (banked by western jewry bankers of course). With the Saud family (wahhabi sunni muslim sect) and being aware of the warring caliphates in the region.

Prior to that saudi family where a strongman nomad warring tribe/ backed by the wahhbi movement pushing for control after the fallen Ottoman empire and Medina and Mecca and oust the orignal practice of Islam, (which is very similar in practice to Christanity) after WW1, Which the west needed to control the region, USA/rockefeller saw their chance sign exclusive oil prospect contracts that deal to get this violent family in power, and give special concessions for USA, who in turn made the family super rich and create a Saudi Royal state after themselves.

Thus with them riches they control of the Islamic Holy Lands and interpretation of how Islam should practised and the word etc globally. (key play is keep islamic followers Divided and blinded) in the rest of the middle eastern states as they still look towards Mecca, but may not share the same Sunni/Wahhabi (ultra conservate, medieval obersvation of faith and state of mind) and believe the Shiite/Shia Doctrine instead..

But all been sponsored by the west to maintain divisons and control indirectly as wealth and greed always the weakness of man, even the acclaimed super religous Saudi's

Rise of ISIS which is clearly a wahhabi style jihad etc.. shouldn't really be too hard to fathom if you follow global events and West's interests in the land for its survival and control.

Modernisation will only happen when Saudi/USA/uk falls, but noticebombs never fall in that land despite all the unrest around the rest of the middle east. US presidents still visit the land and pretty pally with the leaders til this day. But still sell you headlines on the news about needing to fight Terrorism.. please...

Unless some revolution of woke muslims, happens and recongnise the beast within, and critical self assesment no change will happen and will continue to be exploited and forever stalemate.

These wild conspiracy theorys blaming the west for that religion turning bad shows lack of knowing history, trying to say its only bad because of the west

There is part truth in some of the above but when you say the US and UK need to fall so we can see peace just shows how stupid this conspiracy theory comes across

[Vtec]

Drop some knowledge then. Mr know it all.   

[Thun]

5 minutes ago, Vtec said:

Drop some knowledge then. Mr know it all.   

Just do some basic studying of that religion from its inception, you can read how the west was not interfering throughout its history