Players that are holding teams back from progressing?

[Agony]

C/S Wilshere and Arteta

Ramsey + new DM double pivot, Ozil #10, Sanchez and Theo/Ox on the wings, Welbeck upfront and Wenger coping Klopp's Gegenpressing = Progress for Arsenal

[Badman]

Arteta, Willshere & Ramsey

[Seth Rollins]

It's funny what difference a year makes. Certain man owe Agony an apology.

 

But in reality, I think EVERYONE on here agreed years ago Rooney is overhyped and doesn't add anything to United. Should have been sold to Chelsea and made him their problem. Chelsea dodged a MAJOR bullet.

[Lieutenant]

Imagine Chelsea could've had Rooney AND Torres up top last season

[YFSD]

Tbh Rooney would never had got the treatment you guys gave him

Check lampard for example

No prisoners

[Agony]

Would've been interesting to see where 3HUNNA would've went after Chelsea sold or released him.

[darkman]

3HUNNA being a sideman = league title

3HUNNA being the main guy and scoring 15+ league goals a season = no league title

10/11 when Berbatov, Nani and Hernandez saved the team all season while Dracula broke his leg and 3HUNNA was going on holidays to Dubai and America = league title

3HUNNA being RVP's sideman when RVP scored or assisted vs nearly every team in the league = league title

RVP being injured last season and 3HUNNA being the main guy = no league title and our worst premiership season

Not 100% sure about this one but have we won the league when 3HUNNA has won a pfa or club POTY award?

 

Can you clarify what you mean by sideman? Position?

[Michel Kane]

Wilshere & Ramsey holding the team back? SMH.

[Bruno Di Gradi]

Wilshere & Ramsey holding the team back? SMH.

I would say yes just because they're too Injury prone..

 

In ability na...Ramsey has much more to offer than jack wheelchair. better players than him

[LS]

Deffo Adebayor 

[welbz]

Rooney

Valencia when he plays

Smalling

[A walmart bag]

^we ain't winning the league with them two in the middle. (Wilshere & Ramsey)

[Lieutenant]

Winning the league uno

You wanna worry bout top 4

[Michel Kane]

Winning the league uno

You wanna worry bout top 4

Alie

/

If Liverpooll can mount a credible title challenge with Allen & Henderson, I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility Ramsey/Wilshere could do something similar for a team.

[Kuffir]

Wilshere & Ramsey holding the team back? SMH.

 

trust me

[Drift]

 

Winning the league uno

You wanna worry bout top 4

Alie

/

If Liverpooll can mount a credible title challenge with Allen & Henderson, I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility Ramsey/Wilshere could do something similar for a team.*

 

 

*playing once a week, with luis suarez and daniel sturridge up front. 

[The Infamous]

Winning the league uno

You wanna worry bout top 4

Alie

/

If Liverpooll can mount a credible title challenge with Allen & Henderson, I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility Ramsey/Wilshere could do something similar for a team.

I don't think they can. Henderson and Allen have more tactical nous

[Mephisto]

It's Wenger whos letting Jack & Ramsey run wild. When told to play compact (Jack next to Song) (Ramsey next to Arteta 12/13) they are very capable.

[The Infamous]

fair enough

[Michel Kane]

It's Wenger whos letting Jack & Ramsey run wild. When told to play compact (Jack next to Song) (Ramsey next to Arteta 12/13) they are very capable.

 

 

 

Winning the league uno

You wanna worry bout top 4

Alie

/

If Liverpooll can mount a credible title challenge with Allen & Henderson, I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility Ramsey/Wilshere could do something similar for a team.

 

I don't think they can. Henderson and Allen have more tactical nous

 

 

They get better coaching, in terms of natural ability, Ramsey & Wilshere are both clear of those two.

[Kuffir]

under a different manager the wilshere ramsey combo is catalyst to a team gb football side

 

under wenger theyre holding us back

 

real life

[Michel Kane]

under a different manager the wilshere ramsey combo is catalyst to a team gb football side

 

under wenger theyre holding us back

 

real life

 

This.

 

I don't think there's a single player 'holding us back' per se.

[The Infamous]

Arsenal fans always think their players are better than everyone else's

[Michel Kane]

Arsenal fans always think their players are better than everyone else's

 

 

   

[O Fenomeno]

A lot of keepers are holding their team back