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he European Union and Japan have formally agreed an outline free-trade deal.

The agreement paves the way for trading in goods without tariff barriers between two of the world's biggest economic areas.

However, few specific details are known and a full, workable agreement may take some time.

Two of the most important sectors are Japanese cars and, for Europe, EU farming goods into Japan.

The EU and Japan have done two deals for the price of one: a trade deal and a complementary "Strategic Partnership". One will create a major free-trading economic bloc, the second will see them co-operate in other areas like combating climate change.

Both are "in principle" deals, some details to be agreed, so there could still be hurdles. But the signal this sends, bringing two of the world's biggest economic powers together, is unmistakeable.

EU-Japan negotiations began in 2012 then stalled. It was Donald Trump's election, and the inward turn America is taking, that spurred the EU and Japan to overcome their differences. Both want to show domestic audiences they can deliver signature deals that promise new economic opportunities.

They also want to send a clear message internationally that the EU and Japan, highly-developed democracies, remain committed to a liberal, free-trading, rules-based world, and they will seek to shape it even if the US won't.

The outline plan was signed in Brussels after a meeting between the Japanese Prime Minister, Shinzo Abe, and the European Commission president, Jean-Claude Juncker, on the eve of a meeting of the G20 group of leading economies in Hamburg.

It comes hard on the heels of the collapse of a long-awaited trade agreement between Japan, the US and other Pacific ring countries, the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), which was scrapped in January by US President Donald Trump.

The president of the European Council, Donald Tusk, said the agreement showed the EU's commitment to world trade: "We did it. We concluded EU-Japan political and trade talks. EU is more and more engaged globally."

Mr Tusk also said the deal countered the argument put forward by some of those in favour of Brexit that the EU was unable to promote free trade: "Although some are saying that the time of isolationism and disintegration is coming again, we are demonstrating that this is not the case."

He added that the deal was not just about common trade interests, but reflected "the shared values that underpin our societies, by which I mean liberal democracy, human rights and the rule of law".

Japan is the world's third-largest economy, with a population of about 127 million.

As it stands, the country is Europe's seventh biggest export market.

One of the most important trade categories for the EU is dairy goods.

Japan's appetite for milk and milk-based products has been growing steadily in recent years.

The EU's dairy farmers are struggling with falling demand in its home nations and an ultra-competitive buying climate, which farmers say means they are paid less than the cost of production.

Even once the agreement is fully signed, the deal is likely to have in place long transition clauses of up to 15 years to allow sectors in both countries time to adjust to the new outside competition.

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Deal took 5 years and was only pushed through because of pacific deal being cancelled by trump

 

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UK business leaders to call for indefinite delay in leaving single market

So to be real Brexshit isn't even happening any more is it, staying in the single market = de facto staying in the EU. Leavers have to take the L and move on. sorry we are inextricably entangled with the rest of the continent and ulitmately the world. Sorry you lost your country but  now must begin the grieving process. Globalised market forces are irrepressible and will take their course regardless of democracy, and this includes that the identity and hegemony of white indigenous britain erodes away into history books and makes way for a peaceful transition of power to the descendants of the marauding waves arriving from the 3rd world. These are the facts. 

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They always knew they were outnumbered (the west) thats why they embarked on world domination

Systematic physical, mental and spiritual subjugation

As long as white supremacy continues to be pervasive this take over by "marauders" is a myth 

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44 minutes ago, cambridgebanteer said:

It's a myth but it's what they believe is going to happen so we might as well take ownership and weaponise it 

Speaking of weaponising white genocide. 

USA nra have just recently sounded out their foghorn call to arms. 

Best believe they are serious for wanting 2nd revolution/2nd crusade

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everything from their side is a dog whistle for extrajudicial internment, deportations and at worst genocide. When people have support for the implementation of these crimes inbuilt into their political DNA, what's the point in trying to argue with them. Might as well just go with it - I'll just wait here going about my bidness waving everything they hate in their face  until they decide actually decide 'enough is enough' to act on their impulses and start doing those 3 things. 

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The US president, Donald Trump, has said he expects a trade deal with the UK to be completed “very, very quickly” and confirmed he will be coming to London, ahead of a bilateral meeting with Theresa May on Saturday.

Trump and the British prime minister began a meeting as part of a series of bilateral discussions with leaders at the G20 summit in Hamburg aimed at boosting the UK’s trade position after it leaves the European Union.

A UK official said that the meeting with Trump would also see a focus on “progress with a post-Brexit US-UK trade agreement”.

The US president also hailed the “very special relationship” he had developed with May as the pair met for talks on the margins of the G20. Trump said he expected an agreement on new trading arrangements with Britain to be a “very powerful” one that would be great for both countries.

 

However, it wasn’t clear that he was referring to a full free trade agreement as he said trade would be a big factor. The US president also said he had a “tremendous” meeting with Russia’s president Putin.

“There is no country that could possibly be closer than our countries,” Trump said. “We have been working on a trade deal which will be a very, very big deal a very powerful deal, great for both countries and I think we will have that done very, very quickly.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/08/theresa-may-in-bid-to-boost-post-brexit-trade-with-g20-meetings

 

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German industry has warned Britain not to rely on its help in securing a good Brexit deal, in a stark intervention that strikes a blow at the government’s EU departure plans.

Senior ministers have repeatedly claimed since the election that Germany’s powerful exporters will exert pressure for a deal handing Britain substantial access to the EU’s markets.

However, ministers are told today that it is up to the British government to limit the economic fallout from its decision to leave the single market. With the government facing new pressure from business to soften its Brexit plans, German industrialists also warn that Britain will struggle to avoid economic damage as a result of exiting the bloc.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/08/german-industry-warns-uk-over-brexit

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I was in algeria a month ago, theres a huge amount of sub-saharan africans there now, never seen so many foreigners in algeria in my life, a lot of the young men get construction jobs, the women and kids are often begging on street.  Clearly their goal is europe. Its mad cos even to algerians they have this idea that europe is paved with gold. Such a false illusion.

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Prob cos when ex-pats go back home they floss hard 

False illusions 

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