wonder if Sky will have 24 hour, on the ground coverage of this nuclear war...
must watch TV
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1 hour ago, Admin. said:Youre trolling surely ?
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6 hours ago, Gambino said:You laugh but I bet you would struggle to explain what is baffling about it.........
Remember, the majority of this country are in favour of Trident.. you are part of the dimwit minority who are
There is a difference in favor of having it as a sign of strength and actually using it.
That's why debate of owning one and saying others shouldn't is also flawed Imho.
My thing is people are quick to call for its use but there are no winners in a nuclear war. They are no candle light vigils and aid concerts after. So relax
The ideal scenario is to look for diplomatic ways where things don't result to it to ever been used, That I think is Jeremy's point. Nah?
As crazy as Kim is, he isn't sending no Nuclear over this way. Not in OUR life time. There are far more bigger threats.
Terrorism & Cyber crime should be at the forefront.
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Was that an attempt at a joke Kompressor? Maybe stick to ranting about the Glazers in the sports room mate.
From when Iran and North Korea constantly go on about destroying USA and harbor ambitions to build their own Nuclear weapons, From when we had a Cold War and were minutes away from global disaster. It's nice to know we have liberals around here to pretend it's inconceivable and at the very least we can rely on France to save us...... PMSL,
@Afroman Explain to me how spending billions on Trident as an insurance policy and to warn off other countries from attacking us is worth it when you have a potential leader who is on TV in front of the world indicating he wouldn't be willing to use it........
Like I don't understand what it is you lot don't get..... Nobody is eager to see it used, nobody is predicting a war. But it's there for the worst possible case scenario. I don't mind Corbyn saying hey we don't wanna use this, we wanna be diplomatic, we want peace, we want to talk our way out of things and stop war. All of that is perfectly fine, but Corbyn doesn't control everyone else or the outcomes of things, so in the scenario given to him when it's a last resort, everyone wants to know he has the balls to do what he has to do as the leader of this country and use the weapons we pay for.
I know both sides lose in a Nuclear War, but if for instance Russia dropped a Nuclear Bomb on London, I'd fully expect one dropped on Moscow. Who in their right mind wants to go out not fighting?
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1 hour ago, Gambino said:@Afroman Explain to me how spending billions on Trident as an insurance policy and to warn off other countries from attacking us is worth it when you have a potential leader who is on TV in front of the world indicating he wouldn't be willing to use it........
Like I don't understand what it is you lot don't get..... Nobody is eager to see it used, nobody is predicting a war. But it's there for the worst possible case scenario. I don't mind Corbyn saying hey we don't wanna use this, we wanna be diplomatic, we want peace, we want to talk our way out of things and stop war. All of that is perfectly fine, but Corbyn doesn't control everyone else or the outcomes of things, so in the scenario given to him when it's a last resort, everyone wants to know he has the balls to do what he has to do as the leader of this country and use the weapons we pay for.
I know both sides lose in a Nuclear War, but if for instance Russia dropped a Nuclear Bomb on London, I'd fully expect one dropped on Moscow. Who in their right mind wants to go out not fighting?
Why drop a bomb on a city and not the countries military bases? That is the thing, dropping a nuke on a military Base, I have no problem with doing that. However, with the technology we supposedly have, it should be easy to use conventional weapons to target where the leaders are. I'm all for vengeance, but a c*nt is a person who willingly wants kill the citizens of a country who are innocent. The military of that country and their government are fair game imo.
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Guy is lost been watching too many movies.
A nuclear was has never happened its the equivalent of someone scoring 100 goals in a game of professional football over 90mins.
1 or 2 is normal, 3 maybe once a month, 4 or 5 maybe once a year....6 is a rarity and 7+ is unheard of.... and 100 is what your nuclear war is.
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Why would Russia nuke London(except in your fantasies... youd probably cheer too you hater) ?
Do you know much things would have to escalate for that to happen because any country dropping a nuke on a non rogue nation a civil nation one signed to many different international allegiances is basically commiting suicide.
Russia and UK will never go to physical combat directly ever again as both permanent memebers of UN security council, why you think USA and Russia always fight proxy wars and never actually directly attack each other ?
The worst we can expect is sanctions (6 goals in a game) and maybe but very unlikely some shelling of foriegn military bases (30 goals in a game).
Just look at the Russia having their pilots shot down by Turkey with no apology... what happened ? Nukes... no ? Bombs... no ? A year of sanctions and then a realisation that its economy was suffering as well and there was no point in cutting off its own nose..
Also by law if UK invokes article 5 of Nato France and US will have to back it.
India and Pakistan were in conflict and did not use it, even when pakistan had it and india didnt yet have it.
Israel isnt going around nuking all its enemies which it is surrounded by...
South Africa had nukes and got rid of them and no one has nuked them in the last 30 years ?
This having nukes as a deterrent is complete BS especially in an age of diplomacy and times where you build arms to sell and make $$$$ not build to attack/defend.
Only an out of state actor if they ever got their hands on one (15 goals) and used it then still having trident as a "deterrent" would be useless because who do you attack back ?
If anything just invite USA to have an official base in the UK, UK currently pays them for their weapons anyway... this way you get the weapons for free and we can all be open about who is the big spoon.
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^^^Spot on.
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4 hours ago, Gambino said:@Afroman Explain to me how spending billions on Trident as an insurance policy and to warn off other countries from attacking us is worth it when you have a potential leader who is on TV in front of the world indicating he wouldn't be willing to use it........
Like I don't understand what it is you lot don't get..... Nobody is eager to see it used, nobody is predicting a war. But it's there for the worst possible case scenario. I don't mind Corbyn saying hey we don't wanna use this, we wanna be diplomatic, we want peace, we want to talk our way out of things and stop war. All of that is perfectly fine, but Corbyn doesn't control everyone else or the outcomes of things, so in the scenario given to him when it's a last resort, everyone wants to know he has the balls to do what he has to do as the leader of this country and use the weapons we pay for.
I know both sides lose in a Nuclear War, but if for instance Russia dropped a Nuclear Bomb on London, I'd fully expect one dropped on Moscow. Who in their right mind wants to go out not fighting?
Crazy mindset. basically saying if the British government dropped a bomb on Moscow the British public ought to get bombed in response.
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And these people like this guy up and down the country are allowed to vote
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This is why I agree with Socrates view that democracy is flawed.
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The deterrent is so that somebody doesn't run up on you when you don't wanna play ball. You think the west would've seriously fucked with Iraq or Libyia if they had nukes. That's why kims trying to get his so badly. Already saw what happened to guys who the west convinced they don't need nukes only to be overthrown by them years later.
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Nuclear war you know 
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All you man waffling on about how unlikely war is like I need to hear that.
It's this simple.
Can you tell me, cast iron guarantee, absolutely 100% that a Nuclear War could never ever happen.
The fact a man is comparing it to scoring goals too, we were literally minutes from a Nuclear War happening between USA and Russia. It just takes one.
@Da Luv Doc It's funny, you are getting pos'd for being willing to use one now which was unthinkable to these man when I said it lmao.
There are no nations trying to run up on England or usa. Nor mainland Europe.
Where are the U boats and war planes?
U have rouge idealists inspired by western funded and armed mercenaries fighting proxy wars in Iraq Iran Syria and Yemen under the guise of Al queda and Isis.
After the cold war major nuclear capable nations adopted the M.A.D. Rule (mutually assured destruction) if you drop, I drop my nuke too and take everyone out. And ultimately the world as the nuclear atomic fallout would cause a global fallout effect.
(that's if they still work rusting away in underground silos)
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4 minutes ago, Badman said:Nuclear war you know
It's crazy, reverted people back to 50s type of thinking.
Meanwhile powers and corporates that be are laughing. As this gives pretext justification for continuous profiting from non nuke wars.
I may invest in stock and shares of some of these weapons and bomb manufacturers.
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I'm not expecting a Nuclear War. I'm just not buying into these numpties claims that one could never happen, and that if it did we should ditch our Trident anyways and rely on France to save us instead pmsl.
1 hour ago, Heero Yuy said:The deterrent is so that somebody doesn't run up on you when you don't wanna play ball. You think the west would've seriously fucked with Iraq or Libyia if they had nukes. That's why kims trying to get his so badly. Already saw what happened to guys who the west convinced they don't need nukes only to be overthrown by them years later.
Yh those countries like Italy, Germany, Spain, Switzerland, Norway and Sweden etc....
UK got bullied out of the EU by a country made for the sole purpose of a place where England, France and Germany can fight each other without spilling blood or damaging thier own soil in Belgium... Brussels was controlling a country with nukes and it got so bad the UK left...
Also Germany a country with no army other then that to support NATO is head of the EU and is a financial super power but its military strength is 3rd rate.
@Gambino still doesnt get that if someone drops a nuke, anyone on a country that isnt some exiled rogue nation(even then) its over for the whole world as everyone will have to retaliate.
USA got its behind kicked by Iraq in the 90s why didnt they drop a nuke on Saddam and be over and done with instead of going back and recouping for 15 years and coming back with more allies and a different strategy.
When UK fought Argentina in the height of the cold war, why didnt UK just drop a nuke on them and be over and done with ? (Argies have no nukes)
Trident isnt a deterrent as VTEC said its payment scheme for major industries to get funding in exchange for backing financially MPs and governing parties... some ill scratch yours if you scratch mine
yet man wanna talk about the establishment
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19 minutes ago, Admin. said:Yh those countries like Italy, Germany, Spain, Switzerland, Norway and Sweden etc....
UK got bullied out of the EU
Yea sorry that's where you lost me.
Trident is a deterrence. And the fact you keep sitting there waffling on with your false narrative acting like ANYONE said they wanted to jump at the chance to use Nuclear weapons and asking why we didn't use them in Iraq or Argentina shows you are a moron. I've repeatedly said time and time again it would be the absolute last resort but it goes over your head because your only argument is to push some false agenda that somehow anyone who supports having Trident is blood thirsty to destroy the world.
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You laugh but I bet you would struggle to explain what is baffling about it.........
Remember, the majority of this country are in favour of Trident.. you are part of the dimwit minority who are not.
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