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In other news marvellous to see those old Foggies that Fergie has too much faith in actually doing the business for once. Still don't know why he maintains faith in these guys. When he's got unproven untested youngsters he could blood during a tough tittle run-in

(Yes I'm being sarcastic)

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giggs my nigga - the main reason why i support my dons

did anyone have a ryan giggs sunball thing back in the day in which the ball was connected to some shit sunglasses that could help you do kick ups been searching for a pic of it for time

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hard pic

keane looks like one IRA foot soldier

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can never forget this goal and the emosh celbration afterwards

fucking love this guy

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The only moaning that goes on here is towards the experienced players in the squad,

In a parallel world somewhere, Pogba's signed a new deal is a regular sub and part time starter, Scholes didn't return, Giggs is used very sparingly and people are comPlaining that especially with Vidic out we should be utilising the experience and expertise if the older heads more often, and that dropping a young untested potential star could be detrimental yo the team and the boy.

The fact that with our performances and first 11 we are still in the tittle race in a big way, is a big achievement, if people are saying with the likes of Pogba getting more games we'd be better off...........

It was unfortunate that he couldn't get game time against Ajax, but it's simple to see why that is tbh. However I agree he should've been given centre stage in the league cup or sent out on loan.

My earlier comment wasn't a moan, you need to sharpen up your skills of definition, @Mame a pointer could be to look back over your posts in this thread. Especially those after Morrison left,

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can never forget this goal and the emosh celbration afterwards

fucking love this guy

I was thinking about this game the other day ykno.

When Philip Neville fouls Ray Parlour in the last minute I wanted to cry.

I was sure Bergkamp was gonna score the penalty until The Great Dane fulfilled his destiny, then we went on to win the treble which will never be repeated.

There were so many things that nearly went wrong that season but as I always say, you can't stop what was written.

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Tony Evans Football Editor

February 27 2012 12:00AM

Did the Manchester United away support suppress a shiver at an eerily familiar colour scheme at Carrow Road yesterday? Did the plethora of Norwich City scarves around the ground evoke a phrase from the past? Green and gold until the club is sold?

It is a pertinent question in a week that United published their second-quarter accounts. At Old Trafford on Thursday night, when the English champions played a Europa League tie against Ajax, it was hard to spot any sign of an anti-Glazer presence in the stadium, despite the comedown to a tournament that United fans have sniggered at in the recent past. Black, white and red, the protest is dead.

Two years ago, the colours of Newton Heath’s original kit were everywhere. The scarves were the spring’s must-wear accessory. Even David Beckham draped one around his neck after AC Milan’s 4-0 defeat in the Champions League, although Goldenballs disingenuously distanced himself from the protest. Here is the allegory for the campaign: fashionable but superficial.

Last week’s figures held a few unpalatable truths within them for those opposed to the Glazer family’s ownership of United. Commercial income is growing beyond most people’s expectations — 17.7 per cent over six months. Revenue is up 12 per cent over the same period.

The club even managed to pay off a hefty chunk of what they owe, bringing the debt down from more than half a billion to £439 million over the course of 2011.

Yet there is a disturbing undercurrent to the figures. For all the booming profits, costs are spiralling and it is clear that the priorities at Old Trafford are servicing the debts that the Glazer family loaded on to the club. Repayment is coming at the expense of team-building.

Being knocked out of the Champions League at the group stage will have an adverse effect on the next set of figures, but the most worrying sign is that United’s squad were unable to get out of what looked like a straightforward group. The unthinkable happened but those who see it as a blip could well be deluded.

Paul Scholes, Ryan Giggs, Dimitar Berbatov, Park Ji Sung, Patrice Evra, Rio Ferdinand and Nemanja Vidic are in their thirties. The Da Silva brothers, Ashley Young and Anderson are among a crop of youngsters who have not lived up to their billing.

This is a dressing room that needs freshening up to the tune of about £100 million to be truly competitive at the highest level. That kind of spending is not going to happen.

No man has done more to kill the protests than Sir Alex Ferguson. If anyone doubted his status as a managerial great, the past three years have dispelled any of those thoughts. The quality of the squad has declined markedly since the departure of Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid, yet Ferguson has continued to win titles and reach Champions League finals. But how long can the Scot’s force of will drive the side on as the pool of talent available shrinks?

Ferguson, whose image is that of a Govan firebrand, has been the ultimate company man. There have been no complaints about the Glazers’ lack of investment in players. It is hard for supporters to protest against a regime that is so successful, but the merest hint of unhappiness from Ferguson might have galvanised a full-scale green-and-gold rebellion.

Even that is unlikely to have shifted the position of the owners. It would take an awful lot to move the Glazers. The only thing that would work is money. A lot of it. When approached by Qatari suitors in December 2010, they outlined exactly how much it would cost to replace them at Old Trafford: £1.8 billion.

Now, if they are intent on reducing the debt and building up profits in a run-up to a partial launch on the Singapore stock exchange — one had to be postponed last year because of the global economic downturn — little cash will be available to the manager.

And here is the frightening thought for United fans. You do not need trophies to make money. One former club owner articulated this ugly theory in simple terms: it is best to finish second in every competition. Qualification to the Champions League is assured and there are long, fruitful cup runs. Oh, and less expensive bonuses to pay.

In business terms, it’s a winning formula. For the fans paying ever-rising prices to watch matches, it is heresy.

A float of shares could clear the debt and change the landscape completely, but the Glazers have manoeuvred themselves into a position where they can continue to operate without diluting their ownership of the club without too much discomfort. Will Ferguson stand by and allow stagnation to happen? Or will he head off into retirement before the full extent of the Glazers’ priorities shows on the pitch?

The biggest challenge of the manager’s 26 years in charge at Old Trafford could well be looming. The green and gold may have been discarded, but the need to protest is more urgent than ever.

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http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/7552791/Pogba-situation-precarious-

Paul Pogba's agent has admitted that his situation at Manchester United is 'precarious' as reports suggest he is set to agree a move to Italy.

The 18-year-old French midfielder is out-of-contract this summer, and United - who lured him from Le Havre in 2009 - are desperate to tie him down to a new deal.

Talks are on-going but sources in England and Italy both claim that Juventus and AC Milan are offering him bigger money than United.

"It is a precarious situation," his agent Mino Raiola is quoted as saying by The Independent.

"It is difficult at the moment. Manchester United want him. It is up to the boy to make some decisions.

"We know there are some clubs interested in him.

"We must finish first with Manchester and after that we will see other options, if they are there.

"The club give the indication that they want to keep him and we are talking contract terms. There is willingness from both parties at the moment."

Not happy

Raiola confirmed that Pogba was not happy to be left out of the United squad to face Ajax in the Europa League last week.

"It is never nice for the player not to be in the squad. It is the same for [Mario] Balotelli [whom Raiola also represents.]

"We must keep our minds cool and heads cool. Some things are good. Some things are not good [in this situation]."

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