MrJibbles Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 Looks like Ridley Scott was on this weeks Kermode and Mayo podcast for those interested, yet to listen May have to go back and re-listen to this, caught it but was on the move and my focus just wasn't there. FAO for people who have seen Prometheus, my question to you is. Would this film have been better IF it wasn't related to Alien in any form? Since this it's connected to Alien the expectations is just incredibly high and Ridley's first sci-fi film since Blade Runner. Also they did drop the original writer who made it more like Alien with the face huggers, chest busters etc. I'm yet to see the film and will do so at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benicio del Toney Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 Prometheus was excellent. The film doesn't really have much to do with Alien, Ridley said it best, it takes place in the Alien Universe. It shows how the Alien creatures came about kinda as a sub plot but I take it that will be the end of the direct association if there is a sequel. The original writer wrote a script which was purely an Alien prequel, Scott sent it to the next guy and while he said it was good he thought it would be too similar so he rewrote the script, changing the idea, both writers get credit. Would love to see a sequel following Shaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benicio del Toney Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 While I enjoyed the film I had a few problems with it as it totally shitted on a lot of scientific fact. This post sums it up best. Prometheus attempts to take it a bit further. Thing is, if you try to take it any further, you have to establish certain things, meaning there is another level of connection to the real world that has to be lost, because now you're talking about stuff which is NOT ambiguous and can be read about on something as readily available as wikipedia if you were really interested.Case in point: the movie STARTS when two ARCHAEOLOGISTS, who are supposed to be SMART, look for the ORIGINS OF HUMANS anywhere other than AFRICA. Even the dumbest of the dumb can type in "human evolution" on google, and find a wikipedia page that will tell you, point blank, that humans evolved in Africa, NOT outer space. So it doesn't work because it's asking more from the audience than a movie of this type should. But more than that, the role jockies played in the creation of humans ISN'T EVEN DIRECT. We're talking about seeding life at it's earliest stage just as the Elder Things were said to have done on accident. We're talking about a pure coincidence that the life seeded by Jockies billions of years ago somehow evolves to look EXACTLY like the jockies while the jockies themselves haven't changed one bit in 4 billion years. Because even though we are made of the same stuff, and even bacteria evolve, space jockeys are completely stagnant. It's not that science fiction shouldn't have an element of fiction, but usually the stuff you ignore are the really hard sciences like physics. Fuck the inverse square law, I want a giant monster, that sort of thing. When you mess around with the most basic understanding of our planet and ourselves, you're destroying any connection the film might have had with the real world, and so rather than creating an immersive fictional history that builds on previously established concepts in both the previous films and the real world, you get high-fantasy in some ass-backwards corny 50's sci-fi b-movie where all the aliens look exactly like humans and speak perfect english but no explanation is given. There are other direct connections to AvP that if I mentioned would risk being spoiler-y, so I won't go there. But I did want to elaborate on this as much as I could because, frankly, I find it insulting to my intelligence that Ridley has assumed I'm religious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greens Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Thought Prometheus was really good. Obviously not on Alien levels but went for a slightly different angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinister Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Na, don't say that Prometheus ain't all that, I'm mad hyped to see it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black. Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 I was disappointed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsonist Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 I do think most people are going in expecting the same sort of sci-fi horror atmosphere as Alien. Prometheus replaces most of that with philosophical/religious debate. Bar a few visual cues and certain shared themes it's f*ck all like Alien really, but that's not why it's sh*t. It's sh*t because it's just a badly made film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlastboss Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 I was disappointed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Luv Doc Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 I think prometheus were asking where do humans come feom, not life, sonce the dna were the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gayle Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 Django Unchained Trailer http://t.co/hf0rFssm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trim Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 Didn't know christoph waltz was in this aswell. Was brilliant in inglourious basterds Can't wait for this film 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJibbles Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 "Kill white folks and get paid for it? Whats not to like about it" Ahh looking forward to this, huge Tarantino fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trim Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 Anyone else seen the dark knight rises teasers popping up on tv ? Only last a few seconds but clocked one earlier between adverts on E4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerser Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 PayBack.Season.[2012]DVDRip.H264 That new Adam Deacon film, watched it last night........... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2015462/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benicio del Toney Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 Anyone seen Iron Sky, thought it was quite funny in parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Somalian Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 Ok I have one of them funny mates who like to play devils advocate wasn't Leonard's still dreaming at the end? And his wife was right? Inception by the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heero Yuy Posted June 9, 2012 Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 You don't know because you never see if the totem stops spinning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Somalian Posted June 9, 2012 Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 Bruv it was spinning for a long time man was still Dreaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJibbles Posted June 9, 2012 Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 Anyone seen Iron Sky, thought it was quite funny in parts. Seen about an hour of this, it was quite strange but funny in parts. Very low budget but this will have that cut following in years to come. Any Woody Allen fans? New documentary on him is released Must see if you're a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Somalian Posted June 9, 2012 Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 Stat trice what did u think about inception I am confident he was still dreaming. Did we ever see her funeral? Who was after him ? Them Bollocks stories we make in our dreams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJibbles Posted June 9, 2012 Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 Stat trice what did u think about inception I am confident he was still dreaming. Did we ever see her funeral? Who was after him ? Them Bollocks stories we make in our dreams Inception I thought was great, to me this was a film which left you leaving either the cinema or your living room actually thinking and wondering "Was that a dream or real?" I'd have to go back and watch it again, not seen it for a while but if you want a quick answer, I don't think he was dreaming. Cobb didn't even care he just walked off living all that behind to be with his kids, no matter what the ending it shouldn't take away from a 21st century masterpiece. A film that leaves you thinking, how about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trim Posted June 9, 2012 Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 Bruv it was spinning for a long time man was still Dreaming The endings intentionally ambiguous Most important factor is that Cobb isn't actually looking at the top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinister Posted June 9, 2012 Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
local Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 packin out a 10 inch tablet with films n shows for hols with the mrs next week been savin most of game of thrones se2 for it got chronicle, mission impossible n the muppets so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curtis warren2 Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 red tails was hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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