The Official Manchester United Thread

[Mame Biram Diouf]

Maybe because he was managed by Fergie and is now managed by Big Sam?

Find the post where I said Ravel was on the same level as Neymar

Edit actually

http://www.vip2.co.uk/forum/topic/35376-the-official-manchester-united-thread/page__st__2620

You asked about his potential,

kompresser said potential is mad

m12 said better than rooney potential

I said potentially he does too

YOU then said

Hopefully he will be competing with Neymar for Ballon D'ors

I then gave a Morrision plainface pic

Most probably because of YOUR stupid comment comparing Neymar and Ravel

So yeah... this is kinda awkward

[O Fenomeno]

You said he did that's why I made that comment but if you was realistic in the 1st place and admitted he was nowhere near Neymar levels then I would of said cool

[TF S4DK]

Moyes potential United manager? I shudder at the thought

I jump with joy!

[TF S4DK]

Just to make this clearer for you d*ckheads

If Pep had no first team midfielders would he haven given Thiago a chance or played Dani Alves there?

Simple question yes or no

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Hate when people talk about currently ability, like it doesn't arise from potential ability

Ravel was a one in a generation type player, guy should have been thrown in at the deep-end

Who knows how good he would have been compared to the other big world wide players his age being thrown about

You can ask that qustion and most people would say yes he would play Thiago, however that cos its Thiago!

Ask the same question about Barcelona's youth/reserve centre-backs, then think but wait Mascherano and Busquets play centre-half over all of them...

Ravel's talent might have been able to handle the deep-end, but his temperment at the deep end?

[TF S4DK]

Fergie said hes our best prospect since Scholes

Where the quote of this? Cos I searchd it a while back and could't actually find it, was something of an urban myth.

[Kompressor]

Whether Fergie Said it or not is irrelevant, he says these things to get some sort of reaction from the player,

He once said David Bellion gad the ability to make a Thierry Henry like impact on our team,

&

Liam Miller could go on to being as good as Roy Keane,

The Morrison debate is a pointless one anyway, due to the external factors surrounding him not getting playing time,

There are certain clubs who would've washed their hands of him long before January 2012.

[Agony]

If Ravel acted like a model professional off the pitch its more likely that he would've had more first team opportunities at United

or

he would've gone out on loan with Fergie being able to relax and not worry about him getting in trouble and problems not being kept in-house and away from the press

But that didn't happen. He's gone and West Ham now have to deal with his problems. Time to move on.

[Kompressor]

spot on,

i wish Ravel Morrison the very best of luck in his career, i still follow him on Twitter wished him good luck when he was named on the bench for the West Ham Leeds match and was happy for him when he got some minutes at the end of the game, will watch his career as it progresses,

bit dissapointed he's gone, but gutted? No for someone so young theres already been too much problems,

the fact that he couldnt be trusted enough to be sent out on loan despite being born and bred in this country a la Tunnicliffe and others speaks volumes,

we've said goodbye to other very promising youth prospects before and carried on waving them off with ahh well its bad for them not us, the outcry about this saga says more about our current state than Ravel's possible quality.

[Benicio del Toney]

Thiago would of played no matter what

I don't think he would've ykno.

Anderson was being compared to Dinho when he was at Porto and look at him now.

Say what you like dude is mad talented, he should be a permanent fixture in the United midfield by now, instead we bring Paul Scholes out of retirement.

[Mame Biram Diouf]

Guy went from a sick AM to some rebore Diame

[Benicio del Toney]

And regarding Morrison, Big Sam doesn't really have a reputation for grooming young players.

I think people shouldn't underestimate the influence Sir Alex has over him regarding Morrison either.

[darkman]

Thiago would of played no matter what

I don't think he would've ykno.

Anderson was being compared to Dinho when he was at Porto and look at him now.

Say what you like dude is mad talented, he should be a permanent fixture in the United midfield by now, instead we bring Paul Scholes out of retirement.

Yeh it Fergie's fault Anderson's shite. I mean, a skillful player like Ronaldo couldn't shine either

[Seydou]

Deaded that argument. Man forgot about Ronaldo.

[Kompressor]

Fergie said hes our best prospect since Scholes

Where the quote of this? Cos I searchd it a while back and could't actually find it, was something of an urban myth.

The fact that when he has run in the team he looks good and gets opportunities seems to have escaped people attention.

Anderson's stunted progress isn't the fault of Fergie is down to him not being able to stay fit.

From his first season he was put into the big games did well, got given a run, then broke down with a injury.

The more times you throw a coin hoping for tails the more times you'll lose, and also the mire timed you'll win.

These deals have worked out positively for the most part.

[Benicio del Toney]

Thiago would of played no matter what

I don't think he would've ykno.

Anderson was being compared to Dinho when he was at Porto and look at him now.

Say what you like dude is mad talented, he should be a permanent fixture in the United midfield by now, instead we bring Paul Scholes out of retirement.

Yeh it Fergie's fault Anderson's shite. I mean, a skillful player like Ronaldo couldn't shine either

How is Anderson shite though?

He should be playing when he's fit.

[FANTA]

talking about Anderson

i remember watching him for the Brazil U20's a few years ago, i distinctly remember seeing him score the goal @ 38secs here;

don't know what happened between then and coming to United but technically (imo) he looks a far worser player then he did at Gremio, Brazil u20's and Porto, pretty odd really

[Kompressor]

him breaking his leg while in full stride during his time with Porto couldn't have helped, only to regain fitness, sign for us, then promptly get injured again before making a first team appearance, don't know how much of an effect that had on him but it can't have been good,

generally when fit he is in the team, take the start of this season for example. it was him and Cleverly in the middle with Carrick on the bench, Fletcher on the toilet and Scholes on his sofa, the fact that Cleverly picked up injuries Anderson did too, Fletcher was out from early was why Scholes was eagerly brought back in, if those four had been fit they would've served as the nucleus of our team,

the fact is only Carrick has been available for most of the season in CM

[FANTA]

Yeah I agree with a lot of that

I've begun to warm to Carrick a lil' bit lately, for all his shortcomings he has been pretty consistent all season for us, especially considering the injuries we've had

Plus I think with better more mobile midfielders around him we'll start to see the best of Carrick. At the moment he's being asked to do a tad too much to cover up the shortcomings of our other CM's

P. S. Tom 'The Brand' Cleverly is starting to get on my tits though. It's like he's made of fiberglass, always seems to be injured but somehow finds time to get himself a website and swoon around promoting his sponsors

Imagine if Keano was still about with this lot smh

[Kompressor]

Thd odds are Cleverley has found time to do all that extra curricular stuff due to being injured.

[Kompressor]

reserves against Villa starting at 7

http://www.directtv.me/stream2.php

the final top of the north league vs top of the South,

a bit of a sense of deja vu

Josh King and Brady on the bench

[Anderson]

LOL @ Bane

Chatting so much breeze. Andersons injuries are the ONLY reason hes not a regular for us. Even at the start of THIS season he was playing regularly and was on fire. But aparently its fergies fault for not playing him??

Even though he was starting big games for us aged 20, as was Nani, and Ronaldo who was even younger...

[Mame Biram Diouf]

LOL @ Bane

Chatting so much breeze. Andersons injuries are the ONLY reason hes not a regular for us. Even at the start of THIS season he was playing regularly and was on fire. But aparently its fergies fault for not playing him??

Even though he was starting big games for us aged 20, as was Nani, and Ronaldo who was even younger...

You must have cum in your eyes because if you clearly read my posts you would have seen I said the Anderson we signed from Porto and the Anderson we see playing for us now are too different players. The one we signed had that samba flair to unlock a defence and cause havoc with his dribbling and passing the one with have now is just some box to box guy, nobody even knows his best role now

I DIDN'T say that when he was fully fit at the start of the season he wasn't starting so yeah...

So thats two times in a row you have quoted me and misread what I have said, I use one liners with space, how much more simpler do you want it to read?

Even last or season before Anderson would have a sick game then get dropped to the bench straight after, how you suppose to build confidence and form like that?

And being first choice for us in CM at the moment isnt saying much anyway

[Benicio del Toney]

talking about Anderson

i remember watching him for the Brazil U20's a few years ago, i distinctly remember seeing him score the goal @ 38secs here;

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don't know what happened between then and coming to United but technically (imo) he looks a far worser player then he did at Gremio, Brazil u20's and Porto, pretty odd really

I'm not surprised.

Fergie was not a talented player so I don't think he knows how to deal with technical players alot of the time.

Forlan, Veron, Rossi and now probably Anderson and Pogba will go away and have great careers because they weren't under Fergie.

[The King]

Swear some of must watch a different team. Some of the things posted in the last few pages are crazy.

[FANTA]

Bebe's former agent and United are being questioned over his transfer

link - http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/may/10/portugese-police-manchester-united-bebe-transfer

no great surprise, this deal had dodgy written allover it from the get go. oh and a interesting quote;

Sir Alex said at the time Bebe was the only player he had signed in his long managerial career without having watched him at all first, even on video.

how can SAF sanction a £7M transfer under those circumstances? and then turn around and claim theres no value in the transfer market?

he must think we're all idiots, smh