The Official Manchester United Thread

[i5_PRODUCER]

imagine the gas IF he did tho. Moyes would be talking smackkkkk

 

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wouldn't mind letting him stay on , why not.

[Wavant]

Giggsy my G

Knew he wasn't a part of this shambles.

[Mame Biram Diouf]

http://2mufc0.wordpress.com/2014/03/17/wayne-rooney/

[TheKingOfRome]

Hope this wave against rooney continues its needed to happen for the last four seasons

[Badman]

for what? your stuck with him 

[Haze-e]

no way...

"what jagielka would do"

I'm disgusted.

[Yeshua]

Jagielka is a better defender than all Uniteds cbs though.

[Adotbiz]

When fergie was in charge none of these little stories came out he kept a tight ship!!

[Heero Yuy]

The fear factor that's why

[Creed Diskenth]

Who is 3hunna?

[ONELOVE]

lol...Man said its "ABSOLUTE BOBBINGS" them 1940's slang    .. i wish the downfall was alil more gradual but its been amusing to watch.

[Ephren Taylor]

If this faux ginger headed yellow looking freckled c*nt  wins us the champions league would anyone let him stay another year ?

 

 

NOOOOOO

 

Get this guy as far away from the controls as possible please

 

Absoluely dreading the Olympiakos game

 

 

 

How can i be having Spurs, Everton & Newcastle fans trying to banter me at work!!!!!!!

[JOHN DOE]

Jagielka is a better defender than all Uniteds cbs though.

its actually true

[Yoshie]

 

Jagielka is a better defender than all Uniteds cbs though.

its actually true

 

 

CS. 

 

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Olympiakos to win/not lose on Weds and your wish is true, no way Man City ain't spanking us.

Moyes can't see the start of next season, he just can't.

[JOHN DOE]

unless the fans turn on him i actually cant see it happening anymore 

 

what does he need to do to get the sack 

 

he will be here next season and 3hunnaK will be captain 

 

shits disgusting

[Zizouz]

was looking at old posts in this thread

 

 

 

Kagawa wants central role

Shinji Kagawa is eyeing an attacking midfield role for United once he completes his transfer to Old Trafford.

The 23-year-old usually plays on the left for Japan but believes he is most effective in the advanced central position he has occupied successfully for Borussia Dortmund.

"I want to play [in the hole]," Kagawa told a press conference in Tokyo. "I feel that's where I play my best football. I plan to work hard so I can win my place in the position.

"United are one of the biggest clubs in the world, and I have been given a chance to play for them. I took a lot of things into consideration, like the fact that they've got a deep squad, their style of football and it wasn't an easy decision. But I wanted the challenge."

Arsenal, Chelsea and Real Madrid were among the clubs reported to be interested in Kagawa, but the playmaker admits his heart was set on United.

"There were talks with other clubs, but United were the first to make me a formal offer and the more I talked to them, the more I felt Manchester was the place for me," he said.

Kagawa, who will seal his switch once he passes a medical and obtains a work permit, is looking forward to making the step up to the Premier League.
He added: "It's the best league in the world. You've got the world's biggest clubs like [Man] City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea all in the same league, which is fascinating.
"In the Bundesliga, the only games that compare are the ones against Bayern Munich. I feel like I'd be able to gain so much by playing big games on a regular basis, including the Champions League. I can't help but be excited."

 

 

poor guy

 

LOOOL @ RvP

Really? Seriously?

 

poor guy

[Guest freestacks]

Nah under ferguson  jagielka is not even in the same league as ferdinand ,vidic,or even evans .  Under this shambolic twat yes  i agree  but in general no way

[Flojo]

Whether Jagielka is a better defender or not is irrelevant, using him as a point of reference to a group of players that have literally won all there is to win at club level is a disrespect.

 

Imagine you're doing your ting with your girl and she stops to say

 

"nah that technique isn't hitting the spot, you need to do it how Jamie used to do it to me. He'd do it like..."

 

I'd be hitting the spot but an entirely different one.

[JOHN DOE]

 

i werent backing moyes comparing rio to jagi 

 

im just c/s that jagielka is better than the cb we currently have

[Natty]

[Mame Biram Diouf]

 

 

Raphael Honigstein        ✔ @honigstein

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From what I've been told, Moyes' biggest problem is not tactics, but lacking necessary people skills."Can't lift anybody", "indecisive".

[Mame Biram Diouf]

 

United haven't lost six games at Old Trafford since 2001-02 and you have to go back to 1973-74 -- a season in which they were relegated -- to find when United last lost seven league games in a season.

[Agony]

We'll be in double figures for losses by the end of season.

That would be unacceptable for any other manager of big team in Europe especially if they was the reigning champions, smh.

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C/S Flojo

It's peak how Rio went from being in the PFA team of the year to the current situation he's in now.

[Agony]

[Agony]

Manchester United turmoil: Why has Ryan Giggs become the 'ghost of Old Trafford' under David Moyes?

Ryan Giggs's disappearance from the picture at Manchester United, on and off the pitch, is one of the more bewildering aspects of David Moyes's troubled reign

Ryan Giggs could make his 140th, and potentially final, Champions League appearance against Olympiakos on Wednesday, but few at Manchester United would risk their house on the midfielder appearing against the Greek champions.

As United’s campaign descends from disastrous to apocalyptic, Giggs’s disappearance from the picture, on and off the pitch, has become one of the more bewildering aspects of David Moyes’s troubled reign.

Giggs, appointed to Moyes’s backroom team following the retirement of Sir Alex Ferguson last summer, has become such a peripheral figure that the joke among supporters is that he should be renamed the ‘ghost of Old Trafford’.

But with Moyes battling to save his job at United following a catastrophic run of seven defeats in 14 games since the turn of the year, the Scot must surely realise the need to lean on Giggs’s experience on the pitch, and his counsel off it, in order to improve his prospects of escaping the quicksand currently threatening to engulf him.

Since completing the 90 minutes of United’s Capital One Cup semi-final first-leg defeat against Sunderland at the Stadium of Light on January 7, Giggs has made just two appearances for Moyes’s team.

He managed 71 minutes of the home victory against Cardiff City on January 28 and then ten minutes as a substitute in the 2-0 win at Crystal Palace on February 22.

At a time when Ferguson would regularly turn to Giggs to provide calm and composure to his team - Ferguson believed Giggs was at his best in the winter months, when pitches are soft - Moyes has left him on the sidelines, more often out of the squad than in it.

Against Liverpool on Sunday, Giggs was once again overlooked with Moyes opting for the under-performing Marouane Fellaini alongside Michael Carrick in midfield. Darren Fletcher was also omitted from the squad, despite his impressive form since recovering from ulcerative colitis.

Yet while Giggs’s absence from the team could be explained by Moyes’s determination to build for the future at the expense of a 40-year-old with 960 games on the clock, the distance between the two men in the dug-out and technical area hints at the Welshman being regarded as being outside the inner circle of the former Everton staff - Steve Round, Phil Neville and Chris Woods - who followed Moyes to Old Trafford.

How much faith does Moyes place in Giggs’s opinion? And does the player-coach buy into the new manager’s methods?

In recent weeks, rumours of the pair disagreeing on tactics and the way forward have been dismissed, with sources close to Giggs insisting that there have been no such differences of opinion or clash of philosophies.

However, with Giggs’s playing contract unlikely to be extended this summer, there remains uncertainty as to whether he will continue his role as a coach under Moyes orre choose instead to take a break from the game in order to complete his coaching qualifications.

When Giggs was promoted to the coaching staff last July, he said: "I hope I will be able to bring my experience to bear, having been both a player and part of the Manchester United family for so long."

However, nine months into the role, Giggs appears to have become a withdrawn figure who is rarely seen alongside Moyes in the dug-out or in the technical area, delivering instructions to players.

On the training pitches at Carrington, players have noticed Giggs becoming involved in fewer sessions, with the player spending little time coaching. Also noticeable is that Moyes regularly consults Round or Neville, two of his loyal servants from Everton who have experienced success under the Scot.

From being a central figure under Ferguson, somebody whose opinion would be sought by the former manager, Giggs has had to adjust to a new reality and find a way to work with Moyes and his coaches.

With storm clouds now seemingly a permanent fixture above Old Trafford, however, Moyes now needs Giggs more than ever. He needs to plug into Giggs’s charisma and trophy-winning experience, his knowledge of the United way, and trust him to make a difference, on and off the pitch.

Moyes spoke of Giggs possessing "an unrivalled perspective on the modern game", when announcing his appointment as player-coach, but there has been little sign of him tapping into that resource in recent weeks.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/10703407/Manchester-United-turmoil-Why-has-Ryan-Giggs-become-the-ghost-of-Old-Trafford-under-David-Moyes.html