The Official Manchester United Thread

[Mame Biram Diouf]

fellaini was told to protect the back 4 vs everton yet the space everton found because he n giggs wer caught up the field at the same time!... was amazing,

 

 

 

 

gustavo being " booed" has no relevance   , 

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united need new players for in the centre of zi park...LM can wait!

 

What I've been saying all along

 

We could have Gundagon and Modric in the middle, it wouldnt matter

 

Sameway we have Van Persie upfront who can't score

 

The system and tactics are all wrong

 

You only have to look at Kagawa's performances at Dortmund to see the impact playing in the right team can have

 

What use is Gundagon when our wingers are hugging the touchline and we are just crossing it out to them

 

What use is Modric when he tries play a 1 2 with Rooney, and he doesnt get the ball and Wayne sprays a 2 mile pass to Valencia who crosses it into the box when RVP is being marked by 20 players

[Michel Kane]

Pos.

[Horatio Caine]

uniteds centre isnt good enough, 

 

ders no direct creativity from the centre,hence why u will constantly see rooney come n collect it (only himself,carrick n anderson do that)....n"spraying it up wide" 

 

 

 

now that carrick is missin who are we relying on to string a few passes together to get us going? a guy who is 40 yrs of age, i dont care what any1 says,giggs should not be featuring in a man united team sheet in 2013! , 

 

cleverley? the guy with no balls....the day he takes hold of a game......let me know

 

cabaye isnt a world beater  but he would be a good step for building a quality core of midfielders from now til the end of summer,

[Kompressor]

Comparing Manchester United to Real is also silly as they are not a club who's success has been built on stability. They are almost content and happiest when in turmoil, changing managers every few years. For 26 years Manchester United had the same manager, who during that time has only worked with 3 "chief exec's" so yes that is one manager change but it isn't comparable to anything that's gone on at Madrid recent history. It's a massive upheaval when Gill's departure is taken into account.

Also the season finishes in May not the first week of December. If we are in 9th at the end of May i'll share your pessimism.

I'd also imagine the roles that a manager plays at the respective clubs would be quite a bit different.

Real also generally throw a shit load of money at their new managers. If Moyes had been given half the spending power of City or Spurs we'd be more entitled to throw stones at him.

[Davicious X]

CR7 om ITV4 right now

[Agony]

Its a shambles from day 1

Who let's the outgoing manager pick the next manager ffs

Shambles in the transfer window

Shambles with the backroom staff...tbf to round he can't be that much worse then phelan but phil neville lol no experience at all

Rooney shambles

Tactical shambles

Over training shambles

Playing for draws shambles

Post/pre match press shambles

Just a motherf*cking shambles

No doubt the board will back the manager in jan....100m on flava of the months

  

fellaini was told to protect the back 4 vs everton yet the space everton found because he n giggs wer caught up the field at the same time!... was amazing,

 

 

 

 

gustavo being " booed" has no relevance   , 

//

 

united need new players for in the centre of zi park...LM can wait!

 

What I've been saying all along

 

We could have Gundagon and Modric in the middle, it wouldnt matter

 

Sameway we have Van Persie upfront who can't score

 

The system and tactics are all wrong

 

You only have to look at Kagawa's performances at Dortmund to see the impact playing in the right team can have

 

What use is Gundagon when our wingers are hugging the touchline and we are just crossing it out to them

 

What use is Modric when he tries play a 1 2 with Rooney, and he doesnt get the ball and Wayne sprays a 2 mile pass to Valencia who crosses it into the box when RVP is being marked by 20 players

[O Fenomeno]

Sir Alex is to blame for this blip

It was his appointment

[The King]

One of many reasons

[darkman]

 

fellaini was told to protect the back 4 vs everton yet the space everton found because he n giggs wer caught up the field at the same time!... was amazing,

 

 

 

 

gustavo being " booed" has no relevance   , 

//

 

united need new players for in the centre of zi park...LM can wait!

 

What I've been saying all along

 

We could have Gundagon and Modric in the middle, it wouldnt matter

 

Sameway we have Van Persie upfront who can't score

 

The system and tactics are all wrong

 

You only have to look at Kagawa's performances at Dortmund to see the impact playing in the right team can have

 

What use is Gundagon when our wingers are hugging the touchline and we are just crossing it out to them

 

What use is Modric when he tries play a 1 2 with Rooney, and he doesnt get the ball and Wayne sprays a 2 mile pass to Valencia who crosses it into the box when RVP is being marked by 20 players

 

 

uniteds centre isnt good enough, 

 

Moyes knows this and tried to address it

 

Players like Modric and Gundagon would make a HUGE difference to your side

 

Van Persie isn't scoring because he isn't getting the chances created for him. And you're saying someone like Modrid wouldn't make a difference?

 

 

fellaini was told to protect the back 4 vs everton yet the space everton found because he n giggs wer caught up the field at the same time!... was amazing,

 

 

 

 

gustavo being " booed" has no relevance   , 

//

 

united need new players for in the centre of zi park...LM can wait!

 

What I've been saying all along

 

We could have Gundagon and Modric in the middle, it wouldnt matter

 

Sameway we have Van Persie upfront who can't score

 

The system and tactics are all wrong

 

You only have to look at Kagawa's performances at Dortmund to see the impact playing in the right team can have

 

What use is Gundagon when our wingers are hugging the touchline and we are just crossing it out to them

 

What use is Modric when he tries play a 1 2 with Rooney, and he doesnt get the ball and Wayne sprays a 2 mile pass to Valencia who crosses it into the box when RVP is being marked by 20 players

 

So with the right tactics and system your midfield is good enough to win the league and do well in the CL in your opinion?

[WhiteTT]

Boy, can't imagine the tactics we will employ when we come up against bigger teams in europe, im expecting jones in mid with giggs and welbeck on the wing tracking back? 

 

[Horatio Caine]

its sad but boii...

 

we always put a team out to stop the opp playing der football...

 

thats another reason why our play has seized up...

 

i hope we get a gd draw tho....

[JOHN DOE]

Hard to question effort when players are getting rotated and dropped out and played out of posistion

 

Players who I haven't been happy with I would say;

 

Vidic

Ferdinand

Carrick

Cleverly

RVP

Young

Valencia

Nani

Fellaini

Butner

Giggs

 

But some you could easily say havent had a run, but certain players you bring on last 10 mins they will at least look like they are trying

 

Been content with Jones, Rooney, Smalling, De Gea

 

Haven't seen enough of Anderson, Welbeck, Chica, Rafael

 

/

 

Comparing it to twenty years ago is stupid

 

We now have a 70k stadium, one of highest wage bills in the league, one of the richest clubs in the world and are current PL champions

 

You wouldn't expect Real fans to be content with going from top 2 to 9th because of one manager change

 

Its called ambition, not going to just sit here while we lose at home to Everton ffs, draw with Crystal palace, Southmapton

 

He keeps saying it is a hard game every week, no game is easy, but we are Manchester United football club, we aren't Everton, he has a weak mentality, a shortage of tactical knowledge

 

He is a glorified fitness coach, he has no plan b, he hardly has a plan a

 

Honestly, those saying give him time, Martinez (Everton), Pochennti (Southampton), Rodgers (Liverpool) in their first games in charge you could see what they wanted to do

 

What does this guy want to do? Honestly? I can't see it, 

 

We are playing sh*t football, sh*t subs, sh*t team selection, sh*t transfer, sh*t tactics

c/s evetrhing said in this post 

 

fucking hell bane came with the real 

 

compare us now to everton look at the way they are playing with a positive manager 

 

i noticed the motd interview with jagielka after the came he said' its great the way we are playing, the manager has come in and instilled CONFIDENCE' 

 

thats a shot in itself 

 

every interview from  moyes ' we hope , we try , we aim' all these negative bars he has been accustomed to from everton

 

hes a small time manager 

[TF S4DK]

If your blaming Fergie, you may as well blame Aguero for scoring that last minute goal too, smfh.

 

Moyes is shit. Lucky he's British.

[i5_PRODUCER]

All we need is a cultered number 2 who actually knows what hes doing in training and has done it before on a big stage (shoulda kept rene)

 

+ Modric/Verratti/Gundogan/Vidal Type Player

 

+ Ball playing CB , like Jann Vertonghen , we need to be able to ball from the back

 

+ RW/LW , James Rodrigues type . Zaha needs to be loaned to a PL side. Antonio must be dispatched first class

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I've always said Moyes is an ok manager but he shouldnt have been appointed  We should have gone for a prestige manager to hold the fort for a season Ancelotti,Van Gaal ,Hiddink,Bosque, ( doubt we could get him from spain but you see where im going) at the end of the season they would provide an analysis on what we need to do to PLAY BALL and either stay or have an opinion on who we sign next.( manager ) 

 

It all stems from training and as long as we have ol boy nevs from down the road telling man like VP he aint running enough resulting in injury we will suffer. Tactics have been thrown out the fucking window.

[Horatio Caine]

welbz as our 3rd st.....?????

 

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whats does cleverley actually do tho,wat does he offer......?not takin the piss,real question

[i5_PRODUCER]

As the for mids i mentioned i mean we need 1 of them not all them.

[Horatio Caine]

the days when keano used to be in our team, 

 

anytime i saw his name in the line up i used to think united could never lose...miss that leadership

[RaiKkoNen]

 

Dead.

[Horatio Caine]

loool i remember that......................he mus b on the verge of suwie right now!

[Kompressor]

People talk about bringing in a number 2 who knows what they're doing and who commands the players respect.

How many people knew who Rene was when he was appointed and what he'd bring to the table. Same with Carlos.

Not read the book and don't plan to but apparently there are only 4 mentions of Rene in Fergie's book, I'm not completely discounting his contribution but he seems to be his own self publicist. When Fergie was manager and spent most of the week at the races or napping in his office given a choice between handing the reigns to Phelen or Rene who do you think HE'd choose.

People questioned the capabilities of Carlos when he came in, the players apparently didn't take to him his tactics or methods for a while but now history paints a different picture and it was always a cultured decision right?

Rene has his success stories within the squad but I'd bet a decent amount that you'd get as many players talking about his flaws as well. One things for sure it wasn't fit to judge these people in the first season let alone first few months.

Some would argue that Round is better equipped to be assistant at United than Rene was experience wise at the time of appointment.

People talk about respect Carlos was unknown in most quarters when he arrived, whereas Phil Neville at least has the accolade of having been there and done it.

I'm not saying that either Round or Neville will go onto becoming as accomplished as the two others but I'm asking people to use some context and remember what popular opinion was when those two were brought in.

Something Gary Neville said on twitter this morning when asked a question about Moyes.

@GNev2: “@BrownBearSahil: @GNev2 Still back United Gary! Still back Moyes!”

Only Jonny come lately fans wouldn't!!! We're not a Rubber Dinghy club!

It hurts my head to see some sections of the fanbase acting like Chelsea fans. Always thought we had more class than that, Shouldn't be surprised though as some people wrote Scholes off in the mid 200's, Jeered Giggs around the same time and called for Fergie to get the sack during the other transitional period.

[i5_PRODUCER]

Of course its less relevant who your 2 ( Rene , Carlos ) is when your Alex Ferguson. You've been there seen it and got the shirt.

 

IN THE REAL WORLD are you telling me You'd have David Moyes & Phillip over David Moyes & an experienced 2nd coach? in David's first season in charge of Manchester United?

 

I have class and i dont mind backing Moyes but if we're gonna put this man in charge he needs experienced help around him.

[Fresh]

Something Gary Neville said on twitter this morning when asked a question about Moyes.

@GNev2: “@BrownBearSahil: @GNev2 Still back United Gary! Still back Moyes!”

Only Jonny come lately fans wouldn't!!! We're not a Rubber Dinghy club!

It hurts my head to see some sections of the fanbase acting like Chelsea fans. Always thought we had more class than that, Shouldn't be surprised though as some people wrote Scholes off in the mid 200's, Jeered Giggs around the same time and called for Fergie to get the sack during the other transitional period.

 

My sentiments exactly

[Thizz]

It's to be expected though isn't it.

 

Untouchable Manchester United finally brought down to being human again.

 

Of course people are gonna moan your fans have been spoilt for years.

 

I find it hilarious was with my mate last night who didn't want Moyes from the start saying they need to sack him now or that's it when he used to give out to me cause we would chop and change managers left right and centre.

[gattsu]

but the people backing Moyes , do they honestly expect a massive improvement? you man are going to have to offer players huge money to join now Moyes has no pull and new blood is the only thing that can save the season. I hope he stays though,even during arsenal's ahit years he still talked up the team ,granted they where a bunch of fragile minded whimps but I see zero confidence form this man . In short ,this won't end well !